Q & A with Ricky Gervais
By Sally Lodge
Feb 25, 2010
British comedian, actor,
and writer Ricky Gervais's Flanimals and More
Flanimals (Putnam), illustrated by Rob
Steen, introduced a cast of absurd creatures that are now taking on additional
zany dimension. Springing up from the pages of Flanimals Pop-Up, due from Candlewick on March 9, are such
characters as Splunge, "a jub-wobbling glob bag" and Print, who relies not on
traditional wings but on "gravity and stupidity" as he flies in only one
direction-vertically downward. Also illustrated by Steen, this book features
paper engineering by Richard Ferguson. Speaking by phone from the study of his
Hampstead home, Gervais talked with Bookshelf about this and his earlier book projects.
What initially led you
to create the Flanimal kingdom?

I suppose there were two parts to it. One
inspiration was to make my nephew laugh. When he was six, seven, or eight and I
was a teenager, I began making up these ridiculous words that he liked the
sound of, and creating these strange, futile creatures. And the other
inspiration was my love of natural history. I suppose one of the themes of the
Flanimals is the idea of deconstructing nature. Instead of just instincts, I
give these characters will and introspection, and make them aware of their lot,
which is very existential when you think about it.
Existential in what way?Well, in the same way that an existential theme
creeps up through all of my work, including
The
Office and
Extras and my
stand-up. There seem to be the recurring questions: "What's the point? Why are
we here?" It's always glorious to come down on the side of, "There is no
point," which these books do. But with the Flanimals, I suppose it all goes
back to making my nephew laugh.
And did he?Yes, he did laugh. We used to annoy everyone
around us, because we'd have these conversations about inane creatures and no
one knew what we were talking about.
How did the Flanimals
first find their way into a book?I suppose, like everything I've done, it really
was a labor of love. Over the years, these characters remained a passion of
mine. I'd done sketches of the Flanimals and had an outline for a book. And
then a friend of mine, Rob Steen, who is an artist, showed me his work-light
graphic novel-type illustrations. He took the Flanimal characters and made them
come to life and look amazing-almost three-dimensional. And then it happened
that my profile was enough to get that first book published. But I didn't
create these books on a whim. I'd been working on these characters for 30
years. I really am passionate about them.
What do you make of
these characters' new pop-up incarnation?
At first I didn't know what to expect. When a
pop-up book was suggested, I said, "OK, but how exactly would that work?" And
then I was shown a mock-up of a pop-up page and I was blown away. It was above
and beyond the call of duty for a pop-up. The pop-ups in this book have all
these moving parts-it's like the most advanced origami I've ever seen. I
believe a very gifted prisoner, working all alone in his cell, would take all
of a year to create just one page of this book. It's amazing!
Do you expect kids will
connect all the more easily with the Flanimals in 3-D?I expect so. I always wanted the Flanimals to be
facing forward, looking directly at kids. That eye contact helps them identify
with the characters in a way. That's the reason we can stare at chimpanzees for
a long time and wonder what they're thinking. You can't do that with a crab.
With the pop-up book, there is so much more to explore-kids can open little
booklets and flaps and pull tabs. I am very proud of it.
Do you find being funny
on the page a very different challenge than creating humor for the stage or
screen?The Flanimal books were very different for me in
the sense that I don't usually do humor for children. I'm always careful when I
write these books not to patronize kids, which I know they do not like. On the
face of it, it looks like these are quite harsh books-there's squashing and
willful injury. They're about the futility of existence and again, they're
terribly existential. That's life and that's nature. I've made these characters
introspective to the point of tragedy-yet it is funny. We know it's not true,
and we can laugh at them because there are no real victims, just fake victims.
They're made up, so we're allowed to laugh at them.
Is it true that the
Flanimals are making their way to the big screen?
Yes, it is true. The script is in its second or
third draft, and Matt Selman, from
The
Simpsons, is the main writer. We're making it with Universal's Illumination
Entertainment, and they have a great team. We're now knocking around ideas for
casting.
And will you be
providing the voice for a Flanimal character?Yes. I know already that I'm playing Puddloflaj,
a little, fat, sweaty thing. This is more typecasting, as I'll be playing the
putz again. Like all my roles.
Are you looking forward
to seeing the Flanimals spring to life in the film?It is exciting, but what really excites me isn't
the business, or the success, fame, and awards. What
is exciting is that I remember when I first had the idea, the
little seed, for each of my projects. I think of that moment so affectionately.
I remember when I first drew a Flanimal. It's exciting when something comes
this far, but I never push these things, or beg for them to happen. For me,
it's all about the creative process. I just make sure I'm having fun and I do
it on my terms and when it's done, I walk away and say, "We'll see what
happens." Trying to please yourself and no one else makes you bullet-proof.
Either that or I'm a useless, arrogant swine just standing there.
It's not likely that
anyone would think that!Hmmm. We should let the public be the judge. I
bet if you put it to the vote, it would be close to 50/50!
Finally, what do you
make of the fact that the first shipment of Flanimals
Pop-Up—12,000 copies—went missing from the truck carrying them from the
West Coast, where they arrived by boat from China,
to Candlewick's Indiana
warehouse?I don't know what to think, really. But I can
tell you this: when the thieves went back to their lock-up and Mr. Big came
downstairs smoking his big cigar and said, "Hey, boys. What you got there?" and
they opened up the truck, I don't think he was happy when he saw the load of
pop-up books. He was probably expecting DVD players or cigarettes. I would have
loved to have seen that!
And what do you expect
became of the books? I'm thinking the thieves are probably approaching people on the street with them, saying, "Hey, do you like pop-up stuff?" And when people say they can't afford the book, the guys will say, "Well, you can today. Just give us your pocket money and it's yours!"
Thanks. We've enjoyed havin' a laugh!
It's been my pleasure!
Flanimals Pop-Up by Ricky
Gervais, illus. by Rob Steen, paper engineering by Richard Ferguson.
Candlewick, $19.99 Mar. ISBN 978-0-7636-4781-0
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